Should be Test scrum half. Well playes

@jason did you watch the 1st test or you just blind?

Maybe controversial but I would go for Murray with youngs to come on after 60 mins to increase the pace of the game

Needs to start on Saturday Phillips is terrible and too ego driven

I'd go Murray for tests, Youngs benching

Youngs is fastest to the ball , best box kick , and should start the next test

Yeah I watched the game. Youngs kicking was poor and Philips a not so good game. Youngs has had average games against poor teams and at the head to head Phillips takes it everytime. English as consistently playing up their players just because their English. All points by welsh players and all stand out players welsh with exception of OConnel, OBrien and Heaslip....

Phillips is better!! Plus being targeted by aussie back three is saying that austrailia know just how dangerous he is..

All points by welsh players?!?!?!? Next joke. Ben has scored more trys than either scrummy and he's perfectly good in open play! All Phillips is good for is being a mother back row, admittedly handy at the defensive scrum but that's it. Bring on Farrell as well sexton has been terrible this tour

Look at 6 nations look at him at club level. If one person has one good game but crap the others doesnt mean they should start. Near lost the game to oz when he come off

Oh yeah I forgot how terrible croft is, please tell me more about how sexton's handling and decision making didn't nearly lose us the game

All points in first test by wingers, all that shows is that we've been doing the same as we have all tour. Stretching the defence and playing it wide

Croft is lucky to be there infront of OBrien if they play Headlip at 8. I forget out of the 15 men you can have a max of 3 players you think should be playing.... And how good has Farrell been?? Um pretty crap with poor kicking and not putting men into space...

And I'm sure it was Sexyon
Putting Cuthbert in space in the centre that made that try. Norths try was just individual flare.... Oh and Halfpenny slotting them from anywhere.

Mmmm 100% kicking does sound bad to me... And it doesn't matter cos halfpenny will kick anyway. Croft has been great all tour. That try had nothing to do with o'driscoll running into the tackler did it? Besides I didn't say that the whole team should be English did I? Welsh are better than the English because we basically just revamped our whole team recently and very few have much international experience I reckon that we will be great in the future though

And Wales haven't? Falatau 22, north 21 Cuthbert Davies tipuric Warburton halfpenny.... And Farrell isn't 100% with the boot on tour, check your facts.....

Worst kicking percentage he's had all tour is 86% the rest are all 100% sexton's had a truly miserable 40% and then they didn't let him kick again

Check their caps genius child and if that's all you can name for "new players" just drop that argument now because you've lost

Harry your a pissed..... Your argument holds no water. The fact at the caps they already accrued is due to us bedding them in whilst you relied on Johnson and Wilko with no second string coming through.... Now jog on you rose glass wearing clown....

What a great idea send your good ruckers and tacklers eg both flankers into contact where they can't do shit. No. 8 second row and front row are carriers you seriously want more?

That's why we revamped genius and you cannot attack wilko if anything it's a crime he's not on lions showing everyone how its done

Oh yeah you're right that second string that played Argentina didn't look good at all

U can tell ur only 16 mate ... trust me!

Because I'm the only one who can use correct grammar? Yeah that must be weird for you guys huh?

Why you on about Argentina?? Keep going back maybe you'll bring up the 6 nations?? Ooopppsss no you got hammered there... Correct grammar is one thing knowing how to play rugby is another. Saying the back 3 should be tackling and rucking not carrying etc?? Seriously?? Look at OBrien, Tippers, Warburton, Smith, MCcaw, all carriers and tacklers.... Even Crofty.... Your are blinkered. The Welsh have been bedding them in the past few years and still being winning the six nations. And you are right if Wilko was out there you wouldn't see Farrell at all. @ross I am giving my option which I'm entitled to and I have played at national level. So best you crawl back out of the conversation.

Harry when your carrying ball that usually means your attacking so you don't need your back row to tackle anyone. On attack your back row is there to secure and carry ball. And remind what front row carried in the first test? Wyn Jones, O'Connell and Heaslip did the majority of positive yardage over the gain line.

Zzzzzzzzz

That was quiet a good one actually ...

Rabble rabble rabble

Don't see what all this arguing was about , Murray is clearly the better scrum half, sexton the better out half, with bowe on the wing and oDriscoll in the centre, back line is strongest when it's Irish

Croft great all tour! Don't make me laugh 3rd choice at best! Doesn't do the hard work. All he does is clogg up the wide channels along with heaslip!

Irish back line hah! They were great against Italy!

Yiz are a bunch of saps anyways g'luck

I'd rather Laidlaw than any of the options we have

9.murray 10.sexton 11.bowe 12.O'Driscoll 13.tuilagi 14.north, cuthbert 15. Hogg 2nd test

In english and idolise Tuilagi but i dont think he will start i think it will be 9. Phillips 10. Sexton 11. Bowe/ cuthbert depends on fitness and form 12. Davis (with manu coming off bench for impact) 13. O'Driscoll 14. North 15. Half-penny

Youngs and farrell may well come on as replacements aswell

I face I'd start with youngs the game will suit him loads more or Murray and youngs on the last test

I was thinking that but i dont think that gatland will get rid if phillips

Murray Sexton Bowe Odriscol Tuilagi North Cuthbert Hogg?? Seriously? Are you crazy? Halfpenny Davies Philips North or Cuthbert dropped after winning the test? Game was nearly lost by changing the front row and affecting the pack. The backs scored all the points and played well yet you'll change the whole back line..... Not biased at all....

Cuthbert is useless, gets lucky tries now and then because of the rest if the backlines work ; bowe is a lot better

And with the exception of oDriscoll, Ireland backline had nearly no caps for the majority of the 6 nations

Yeah Cuthbert is lucky that is why he's the top try scorer, definite luck at that level.... Bowe brings better defence but not better attack. The best Irish are playing. Can't believe how badly Best has gone at his throwing in at the line out. Heaslip is doing well but I don't think Bowe will be in unless one of the 2 welsh boys are injured.

Cuthbert is a good finisher but bowe can make things happen both north and bowe have made tries happen from their own 22 but cuthberts tries come from other players hard work and he puts the cherry ontop

I see your point, but that is exactly what he's there for. Finishing off the move.... He's doing exactly what is asked of him and that's why he will still be in the test side....

He probably will but why have just a finisher when you can have someone who has a way better all round game

At last! A good ref!

Noo weren't lucky but again he scored the last 10 meters of the try im saying bowe is better then him because all cuthbert can do is finnish the move when as north and bowe can start and finnish on while being solid in defence and lets be honest cuthberts defence isn't great

Patrick Walsh, this is the lions tour, not the 6 nations, keep up new competition

Well if your talking just about this tournament you don't have much to say as your boys ain't played.... Lol... A wingers job is to finish whether it be 10 meters or 100. He's done everything asked of him and seeing as you questioned his defence, who's side of the field conceded both tries?? Was actually Norths side. Bowes a great winger but so is Cuthbert as he's reading the players inside and supporting them to finish the play.

Hahahahaha your arguement can't be 'he's not bad look at north' and yeah a good wingers job is to do that but an amazing winger makes things happen looks for the ball looks for contact hunts and bowe does that far better then cuthbert all nationalities aside he is a superior player (English just so you know)

North is defiantly the better winger but bowe is so much better that cuthbert

Definitly*

That's not what I said. You questioned Cuthberts defence yet the tries were scored on the opposite side. Bowe looking for work looking for contact? Yep, not scored and broken hand. Cuthbert top try scorer 6 nations and on this tour. Beat 3 men with his pace for the test try and that's all that's needed.

Well look who was right for the selection

Yeah and we will see if it works.. Bold call considering he hasn't had any quality time against quality opposition. And let's see how Youngs pulls up now there's no Philips and big call having Lydiate on too. Must have been a long chat for that team selection.

Raging lad, your beloved cuthbert taken right out as soon as bowe is ready to play, says a lot I think, plus Phillips not even on the squad

Ah ye of little knowledge..... Philips is injured.... Bowe is in but now he's got to prove it or he will be dropped for Cuthbert.... Suppose you have to keep on as you don't get much to talk about otherwise.

Sorry lad, forgot you were a pro rugby player, can I have your autograph?

I'll post it to you, kid.

Yawn